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Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 16:14:00 -
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Create it first =3 |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 17:31:00 -
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So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)
I don't see your page working too be honest... |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:04:00 -
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Vixen Soul wrote:Johnson Sunzu wrote:So we just give you money and you make this game changing thing out for free? =)
I don't see your page working too be honest... Yeah, honestly I don't know how to work out the trust issue. I think we could do it on a work-based basis. We can write up a schedule of the development process of this website. We can then create objectives that need to be completed on a time line. As each objective is completed, we receive a partial payment. I would never do this with my clients in real life. We demand 60% up front.. but this is EVE online, and it's notorious for scammers, so I would be willing to make an exception.
I'm down with what Lord said.
No one will pay a random guy upfront for a design made in paint =P |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:48:00 -
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Vixen Soul wrote:So I've proposed this before, and it didn't catch on? That was 9 months ago. I started a company since then. I hired developers since then. I've created proposals, signed contracts. I'm 17 years old, I've grown a lot since then. I'm looking at this much more professionally. Like I said, I wouldn't ask that an investor pay any amount up front. Instead, we can write a time line, and add objectives. When each objective is completed, I would get a payment. This would ensure the project is completed, and nobody is scammed. There isn't much risk here. Just someone willing to agree to fund it because they have faith in the idea I'm selling.  I encourage you to look at the idea. Read my 2nd post on this thread. I'm confident you will like my ideas. I'm not just selling a website here. I'm selling a system, and I lay out pretty specifically what features it will have.
So.
I just read the Thread about your previous attempt at this and i must say... You didn't learn anything did you?
Make the site and sell it or give up your little scam.
And before you say you aren't scamming, Can you prove yourself otherwise?
What you have done the last 9 months that makes you think that this will work now i don't know...
But i know it won't work now =)
Save yourself the time ^__^ |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:26:00 -
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They are right you know.
There is people that make better websites then you for free =)
Please tell us if there is any business people that contact you tho so us poor non-business people can learn how wrong we are =) |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:29:00 -
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Vistrix Starshadow wrote:Scoville Scale admin wrote:So I have purchased my lotto site from Vixen and I can confirm they are 100% legit, I have spent over $1000 with them and have been amazed with their work, they always online and DLEIVER as planned.
Now I suppose you will look at this char and think I am Vixen, well if you are considering this proposition then evemail me and would be more then happy to skype / video call you and share my pay pal details to prove they are trustworthy.
I would also be happy to give free advice on how to manage 3rd party developers to make sure you get what you need,
Not sure what else I can say except for ignor the haters and if you like what they offer for the price they are charging then go for it, it will be a reality.
The thing is, nothing is being offered here. The proposal is that you give OP 100B isk for something that hasn't even been created yet. Most of the services he is incorporating into his "idea" are already available for free elsewhere. If you purchased a lotto site then you obviously don't know how to use google, because the source code is available for free. Regardless, this type of discussion does not belong in the Sell Order forum, and should be relocated by a representative of ISD. (similar to the last thread you created on this exact subject.)
Deja Vu |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:34:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Vixen Soul wrote:Anyway, this website, if I do it, will literally be the most complex website my company has ever made. Vixen Soul wrote:It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio. I also disagree with you about ideas having value. You can have all the ideas in the world, but unless you can execute them properly, or try sell them to someone gullible enough, they are worthless. Either way you've already given your idea away for free and now the money is in executing it.
Quick! save the idea and find someone that makes the site for 1/3 of the price within a few weeks.
we can sell the idea before this guy manages too make it in the 6 month time span =D
$$$$ |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:43:00 -
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Vixen Soul wrote:Johnson Sunzu wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:Vixen Soul wrote:Anyway, this website, if I do it, will literally be the most complex website my company has ever made. Vixen Soul wrote:It's not the painting that has value. It's the idea, and my ability to bring it to life. That ability can be proven with a portfolio. I also disagree with you about ideas having value. You can have all the ideas in the world, but unless you can execute them properly, or try sell them to someone gullible enough, they are worthless. Either way you've already given your idea away for free and now the money is in executing it. Quick! save the idea and find someone that makes the site for 1/3 of the price within a few weeks. we can sell the idea before this guy manages too make it in the 6 month time span =D $$$$ This is just proof you're a troll.
There never was a need too troll ...
It's already bad.
Make a product too sell or offer a service with a 3rd party etc etc ( you got this in the last post )
and the sell the product. People won't give you isk for a site you gonna start making.
There have been PLENTY of scams involving things like this
and I am not saying your scamming here... but you need some sort of security =)
Not just - I can make websites and i got this amazing idea! but i need 100b too actually make it and change EvE forever #becomeTHE2ndsomerblink420 |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.29 21:56:00 -
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Vixen Soul wrote:Kaputt wrote:So,
You've tried this before... Failed.
You tried sale pitching your "company" on Facepunch... Mocked no end and even hacked. And to be honest, I've seen more professional websites for a much lower price.
You come back here with a super idea SAME pitch... Not looking good is it?
Like the others have said, you would stand a much better chance of creating the website, have people test it and iron out the leeks and then pitch it as a monthly service. IF (and its a god damn big IF) takes off and the word gets around you may just then have your 100billion.
Until then;
NOPE. If I end up making this website without an investor, I promise you it won't be sold.
Wut?
so it has nothing too do with ISK ? |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:57:00 -
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we do all work for out fortune.
Now its your turn too make something amazing and prove too us that we we're wrong, and you were right =)
Do that and you will be Famous, Rich and well known in the eve community.
Good luck! =D i really hope you manage too succeed in it |
Johnson Sunzu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.30 19:37:00 -
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Vistrix Starshadow wrote:Tharaleza wrote:I don't understand why a real world company requires video game currency in order to be able to produce a program..
RMT? It's an elaborate scam, nothing more. Move along people.
But its so fun =D |
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